1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bf5 6.Ne5 c6 7.g4 Be6 8.g5 Nd5 9.Ne4 Nd7 10.Nxd7

It seems black is playing fundamental moves based on a clear plan. If I manage to win the game, it will be difficult to argue against the line. Of course, most of antiBDGeers will be yelling something about 8..Nfd7 putting two exclamation marks behind it but it will leave me unruffled.

1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bf5 6.Ne5 c6 7.g4 Be6 8.g5 Nd5 9.Ne4

In my opinion 8..Nd5 is better than 8..Nfd7?!, based on analysis I have been doing. Nfd7 is an ugly move cramping black´s development.

There is a game Leisebein vs Bergmann which can be reached here http://www.remoteschach.de/db/matchview.php3?SUID=794e0&id=20034

The game is still in progress and after 8..Nfd7 9.Nd3 g6 10.Bg2 black is on move.

In case of 8..Nfd7 I would try 9.Nf3!?N

Vieto recommends Nfd7, X and Markovich recommend Nd5. Markovich is offering very interesting comment, comparing the line to Aljechin. I was once playing 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Ng8!? followed by d6, e6 and possible d5, transposing to French def. with Bg4 played.
I have almost started to believe that my position is worse:-) after all these comments. Well, to be completely honest, according to my analyses chances are about 50-50. I won´t lose the game but I´m not sure if I will manage to prove an advantage. And unfortunatelly nobody is advicing me..

Sorry Patrick, but a pawn without any compensation gives a clear advantage in my world...
And I still play the BDG with White against opponents rated between 1900 and 2500 elo, so I know a little on the subject 

Here is my game for ArKheiN :

[Event "DGT01"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[White "Neumeyer, A"]
[Black "Vieto"]
1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bf5 6.Ne5 c6 7.g4 Be6 8.h3 Nbd7 9.Qe2 Nxe5 10.dxe5 Nd7 11.Bf4 Qa5 12.a3 g6 13.O-O-O Bg7 14.Bg2 O-O-O 15.Rd4 Bxe5 16.Bxe5 Nxe5 17.Ra4 Qc5 18.Re1 Nc4 19.Ne4 Qb5 20.Rb4 Qa5 21.Qf2 Rhe8 22.Bf1 Nb6 23.Nc5 Ba2 24.Rbe4 Nd7 25.Nd3 e5 26.g5 Be6 27.Nxe5 Ba2 28.Bc4 Bxc4 29.Nxc4 Qxg5+ 30.Kb1 Rxe4 31.Rxe4 Nb6 32.Nxb6+ axb6 33.Qxf7 Rd1+ 34.Ka2 Qd5+ 35.Qxd5 Rxd5 36.c4 Rd3 37.h4 Kd7 38.b3 Rd6 39.Kb2 Re6 40.Rf4 Ke7 41.Kc3 Rf6 42.Re4+
and here unfortunately I had to withdraw from the tournament.

In the 8.g5 line 8...Nfd7 is the best move for me.

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I agree that the position is more dificult than it might look. And I think claims like Vieto´s 7..Be6! -+ are rubbish and complete nonsense. The position is very complex, white has some weaknesses, but black development is cramped and his Bf8 bishop needs to be developed by playing g6 first and it takes some valuable time. There is a real danger that black king will be trapped in the middle of a board even during  middlegame. Time is very important factor in this particular position. The most important factor in my consideration about the position.  

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Personally, I would be extremely happy to hold the Black pieces here.  I think it is simply crazy to talk about +- after 1. d4 d5  2. e4; White is only += after 2. c4!, for crying out loud.

Schoupal's claim in this regard reminds me of a story about a certain Swiss farmer who spent his life in a mountain village, devoting all his spare time to the analysis of chess.  One day in his old age, he had it all figured out, so he walked down from his mountain, took the train to Zurich, and showed up at the chess club there, the strongest in Switzerland. 

"The initial position is won for White," he calmly asserted, but he received only laughter in reply.  "Show us this win, then, O Wise One!" chuckled a local master.  So they all gathered around the farmer's board, expecting to be treated to a good joke.

But in variation after variation, with brilliant move after brilliant move, the old man proved White's winning advantage.  While the session dragged on, two GMs showed up and looked at the lines being debated.  Sometimes they offered ideas, but always the old man had perfect answers.  The GMs looked anxiously at each other.  "So," said one, "what shall we do about this?"

Some days later, the old man had failed to return to the mountain, and his relatives went into town to tell the authorities about it.  The Zurich police were telephoned, and since the old fellow was known to be devoted to chess, they inquired at the club.  But upon listening to the old man's description, the players there all denied having seen such a person.   The old man was never seen again, and the game of chess went on as before.

Hello Vieto, could you put some games played in the 6..c6 7.g4 Be6 ? just to see if there is an improvement possible, and what is the black plan after 8.g5




C'est chiant qu'on ne puisse pas parler français, je suis moin à l'aise en anglais
(Im just saying to Vieto that is quite annoying to me to skeak to him in english and not in french :p )

Ok Bonsai I understand, effectively it's hard to say if the moves c6 and g4 favours more white or black than the immediate Be6, but 6.Ne5 Be6 seems a bit superficial, I dont think white have big problem here, we need more practice to see white and blacks ideas.